You and I were the only ones that kept our heads. You saved Open Source, and I saved all the rest. Ballmer: The envious ones say that, Gianugo, the suckers. Now, I have stated my side very frankly. Now, let's look at your side. Young man, twenty-seven, twenty-eight Ballmer: Forty-five. Out of which, after supporting your mother, and paying your bills, you're able to keep, say, ten, if you skimp. A child or two comes along, and you won't even be able to save the ten. Now, if this young man of twenty-eight was a common, ordinary yokel, I'd say he was doing fine.
But Gianugo Rabellino is not a common, ordinary yokel. He's an intelligent, smart, ambitious young man - who hates his job. When Microsoft moves on we will. There are lot of people working in the open source software industry who have no problems with working with Microsoft. We've just been burned a few times and aren't interested in wasting time with people who talk the talk but won't walk the walk In other words, get back to me when they're actually doing something other than barring copyleft from WP7 marketplace or claiming that linux kernel violates hundreds of patents without prodiving any verifiable facts.
So, to get back to your comment: what exactly has MS done that we should be interested of and how should we "move on" with regards to that? That doesn't mean I'm going to trust or rely on Microsoft in my projects mostly on the mobile client side , not without considerable show of commitment from them. Oh bullcrap. They create a position like this every year or two, then we get this little "Ask the Quisling some Questions!!!
Yeah, because corrupting the ISO process [theregister. They could only redeem themselves by revoking the standard. There would be no damage because there are no products that follows it, not even MS' own Office. Office produces files that follow the ITU version of the Docx format. Only copyleft licenses are restricted in WP7 marketplace, and that is because Microsoft is distributor of apps within, and would therefore get a burden of legal obligations placed on distributors by such licenses to provide code on request etc.
I have to defend them on that one. As crazy as the patent system has gotten, if they don't defend their patents, they are essentially putting up a big sign for Apple, Sony et.
It's sad but true that the only way for a company like MS to stand is to have its own cache of patents to ward off other companies. Just ask Sony [bloomberg. You don't have to sue to protect patents. That is trademarks you are thinking of. With patents you can sue those who only sue you first if you want. But if they don't aren't they opening themselves up to a web of charges of prior art and other problems in a subsequent court case?
If Party A violates my patent and I don't sue them, and Party B later comes along and violates it and I sue them, what's to stop Party B from saying "Well you obviously didn't think Party A was infringing way back when, and we're doing the same thing as them, so obviously this has no merit. This is not how patents work. You can let A infringe all you like and never tell B why. Heck, maybe A is just your good buddy.
Patents are not impacted by your choice not to litigate against one infringer. I don't really see how they can use patents against "Linux" -- you can't sue "Linux" as an organization. In theory they could sue IBM or Google or someone like that, but those companies have their own patent arsenals. Conversely, they could sue one of these little guys who has no patents, but the little guys also have no money. So Microsoft might get an injunction, but then they've tipped their hand and three days later there is a version that works around whatever patent the old version was allegedly infringing.
And on top of that, any real aggression against Linux would be bad PR for the open source developers they're allegedly trying to woo here, plus any potential antitrust problems for going after a competitor to their monopoly, plus the risk of IBM or someone retaliating, or the EFF or someone else starting a project to invalidate whatever patents they're using to rattle sabers. It's a lot safer for them to just spread FUD and not actually litigate anything.
Although it makes you question their stance in favor of software patents -- one wonders whether a bunch of patent lawyers who don't want to be out of a job aren't lobbying the lobbyists.
If MS were against software patents they'd be campaigning to governments, which would probably make a big impact. I mean, I don't know this guy personally, so it's not an attack on him, but MS has hired various "open source" people in the past, and what do we get? MS pays Novell to develop a C and. Net stuff which prevents the antitrust commission calling them a monopoly , and when Novell goes bust, MS buys their patents. It's not the hardest job in MS. It's a PR stunt. Just being hired is already a win for MS.
The hardest job at MS would be their security experts. Imagine trying to do a job and having every last move you make either neutered or cancelled entirely by Marketing. MS has a small army of highly skilled people. They could definitely produce higher quality software.
I believe they could make malware a rarity if they really wanted to do it. But what's their incentive when you can make billions without going to all the trouble? The only reason MS is being so nice lately is they're more irrelevant than ever. Microsoft can handle being loved and they can handle being hated. What they don't want to face is being ignored.
They're hardly obscure yet but they are long-term strategic thinkers so they realize that things are moving in that direction, in baby steps at the moment.
The real interesting stuff is coming from Google and Apple while Microsoft is stagnating. Windows 7 is nice but it's not the giant improvement that XP was over Win Even the XBox is showing its age. When things were going so well for MS and the industry was very interested in what they were doing, we got to see how much of a dick they can be.
If they start innovating again you can expect their attitude about Open Source to go back to the "Halloween documents" days. I hope Mr. Rabellino understands one thing very well: if you get in bed with Microsoft, you're going to get fucked. You know, even if Microsoft really has turned over a new leaf and really has a sincere desire to honestly work with Open Source, even if this really isn't a trap of the "embrace and extend" sort They have about ten years of complete asshattery to undo and all of the people who perpetrated that are still running the company, particularly Ballmer.
Maybe this is like politics where people have horribly short memories. If that's true they also have marketing talent or had ;. Their stuff just gets "microsofted" on the way out. Microsoft spokesman Tom Pilla on Tuesday confirmed with iPod Observer that his company initiated the creation of the iPod packaging parody video that was first reported last month.
They're hardly being ignored here on Slashdot. Probably even Microsoft's blog doesn't post such a binge of Microsoft PR material True, though from reading through the comments I see that most people aren't buying it. That's PR I can appreciate. It's probably the only kind. They call it "Public Relations" because that's shorter than "a substitute for lack of merit". PR: what you fall back on when the straight unspun truth wouldn't make you look so good.
Go back ten years, and you're exactly the same Microsoft owns the desktop with Windows, the businesses through Exchange and Office, everybody is going "Microsoft is stagnating" Uh no, just no. If anything most companies are now even deeper in the pockets of Microsoft than before through Sharepoint and various other hooks. Many people will continue to use Windows at home because they use Windows at work, and honestly if Microsoft wasn't in a crisis over Vista then Windows 7 is a walk in the park.
The only. In fact a pretty easy job. If the job really involves trying to improve cooperation, the job is essential to tell MS: If you want their cooperation, you should stop trying to murder them.
Of course if the job is to make open source cooperate more in getting murdered, things might be more difficult. So, as far as I can see, the only place. NET could win out is 4. NET wins on 1 and 3. On 2,. Mind you, I've not used it on a Mac, and I've read that calling external libraries on a Mac is a bit qurky.
I bet the Edsel would be somewhat popular if they still made it. But I'd rather have a Toyota Camry instead. Just as, having used both, I prefer Kdevelop to Visual Studio. Microsoft has a huge community of developers, and has always been about developers. Developers nowadays are mostly to be found in the open source world.
We need to go where they are. In fact, that's one of the reasons Microsoft has softened its stance toward open source over the years, he says. After joining Microsoft, Rabellino went back to Europe for a week in late January and early February to meet with numerous open source advocates, including van Dam in Belgium. Microsoft and open source developers used to be "like water and fire," van Dam says, noting, "It's truly amazing to see that Microsoft now has learned the value of open source, knowing that open source is here to stay.
Microsoft gave itself another black eye in the open source world by prohibiting developers from using GPLv3-licensed open source software in any application distributed in the Windows Phone Marketplace. Rabellino calls it "a complicated issue and an ongoing issue. Microsoft hasn't followed up on claims that Linux and other open source products violate Microsoft patents.
But the company is filing patent lawsuits involving the Linux-based Android. Members of the open source community are still reluctant to make amends with Microsoft, and it will take time for that skepticism to disappear, van Dam acknowledges. But for Rabellino, even in the s when he was founding the Italian Linux Society, he says he wanted "to steer clear from the useless bashing and negativity.
To me, it was 'I like this system better. While Rabellino was fascinated by the grassroots movement surrounding Linux, using the open source OS was a "pragmatic choice. When asked if Rabellino might urge Microsoft to build Windows computers that aren't plagued by constant updates and can start up and shut down as fast as a Linux machine, Rabellino says, "You know, it's something we should work on. But we hear your frustration.
Rabellino's main focus right now "is to enable PHP to shine on our platforms. These licenses offer more patent protection than the more commonly used open source licenses, Rabellino indicates. It's really about being pragmatic, it's not about what license to choose based on an idealistic approach. I see a lot of good stuff in Microsoft licenses when it comes to patent language.
There is an advantage there. Why choose one license versus another? Do you want to protect your code? At that point, Microsoft began hiring open-source developers such as Phil Haack a leading developer of open-source software for Windows , John Lam creator of IronRuby , Jim Hugunin creator of IronPython and others to help foster an open source mentality among the ranks.
Redis is an open-source, networked, in-memory, key-value data store. In , Microsoft folded the MS OpenTech group back into the company because its role was no longer needed. That was just a year after folks said hell froze over and pigs began to fly, as Microsoft committed to open-source its beloved. NET and take it cross-platform to Linux and the Mac.
And last year, Microsoft joined The Linux Foundation. NET Foundation , Microsoft has open sourced. NET, and dozens of. NET-based projects, and is bringing them to platforms such as Linux.
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